Saturday, November 28, 2009

Pat Condel has something to say...



This plays a "small" part in the discussion we had Friday night. Are the "new atheists" hostile? Intolerant? Ranting? In my opinion Hitchens, Dawkins, Dennett, and Harris are docile pussies. 2:55 - 3:30 hits the nail on the head. How does one differentiate the religion from the dogma? I remain unconvinced that one can. Calling one mythologically dead ideology a "religion" as an example of the non-effective is silly. Anamism with NO human following, is useless when there is nothing ceremonial, or derivative to its antecedents and consequences.

Just sayin' (perhaps antagonizing)


HH =)

6 comments:

Thesauros said...

40 something? Pfft!

HH said...

Ageism? Nice. Is that approach you took in your clinical practice as a counselor? Ad-homonim attacks? I question your skills as a therapist, and your intelligence as a human.

Pfft... right back at your fundamentalist self Markarios.

Thanks for stopping by and sharing your well articulated, and pensive scribblings with us here.

HH =)

Counterintuitive said...

totally antagonizing--can't wait to see the fireworks once shane gets wind of this. I do have something to say about the debate (as an atheist I do think Hitchens et all are *sometimes* hostile) but I'm too tired right now.

HH said...

I'm GOIN' ROGUE! Gettin all MAVERICKY! *wink*

HH =)

shane said...

Of course Makarios is going to defend his views with ad hominum attacks. Does that surprise you? Haven't you learned anything, Trav, about how his kind thinks? You're not wrong because your logic and evidence are faulty. You're wrong because you're old or you're a fag or a woman or a nigger or an Arab or a Jew or a Democrat....

I would like to oblige CI with a long angry rant, but, honestly, what's the point? Why waste time trying to teach a blind man to see? And is it any wonder Makarios feels threatened by your age? I mean, most people learn a few things as they get older, and Makarios seems pretty dead set in preventing that from happening. Just keep avoiding meaningful discussions and stick to your prejudices, Makarios, and your mind, at least, will never get passed the 6 year old level it seems stuck at. No worries there.

As for the video, I agree with every word he says. Intolerance of religion is not the issue I have with the new atheists and nor is it the reason I describe them as "fundamentalists". Mainstream religion and other forms of oppression and abuse (such as Makarios' name calling) shouldn't be tolerated.

SH said...

dude...his passion makes me horny. But not for him. just generally speaking. I like his aggressive in your face tone actually. I don't think he'll change many minds with it though, those who aren't turned off by it probably already agree with him.